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Posted - 2013.07.02 12:50:00 -
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First off I'd just like to say, as a proud EA hater, CCP..... you've just become extremely close to being dead to me.
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CCP taps EA's Sean Decker as new VP of product development
by Mike Foster on Jul 2nd 2013 8:30AM
Big changes from Iceland today, as CCP announced that it has brought on Sean Decker as senior vice president of product development. Decker is a 12-year EA veteran and recently headed the publisher's free-to-play focused games group, along with previously overseeing DICE and EA Los Angeles. EVE Online, as crazy as it sounds, is entering its second decade of being a game about internet spaceships, and CCP is looking toward the future.
The company referenced Decker's extensive industry experience as a valuable asset in helping guide EVE Online through its next 10 years and in ensuring growth through the eventually-maybe launch of World of Darkness and the expansion of DUST 514. Decker will be based out of CCP's Atlanta studio.
Massively's Brendan Drain spoke with Decker and EVE's Hilmar Petursson at a press event yesterday. We'll have more information on how the new hire will impact EVE this afternoon!
With good reason, I avoided spending money on EA products for the four years proir to BF3's release, and have avoided purchasing any more EA products since then. Sorry, but I won't bother elaborating, since this is neither the time nor place for all that jazz.
However, I do have some questions I want to ask......
- What impact, if any, does the Dust514 community expect this move(hire) to have on Dust and the Eve universe?
- What does the Dust514 community feel this decision says about CCP?
- Any other thoughts or concerns on this subject?
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Posted - 2013.07.02 13:02:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:well there's a lot of people involved in a company, some force things yon their employees even project leads.
just because he worked at EA doesn't mean he's the reason why I hate a lot of their policies, doesn't mean he's not either, guess we'll see.
He didn't "just work at EA"
He "ran" the F2P games division for EA, globally.
He oversaw (read: ran) Dice and EA Los Angeles.
The two above facts place him in direct accountability as to some of the controversial changes BF3 brought about to the Battlefield franchise. It also places him in direct responsibility for failure POS pay-to-win games like Battlefield Free2Play (go google it).
This guy was not the poor pee-on looking to make EA better and getting stepped on for his effort. He's the one that was crushing said employees (and their integrity) beneath his heel......... imho |
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Posted - 2013.07.02 13:29:00 -
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Vavilia Lysenko wrote:General Technique wrote:
Blah, Blah, Blah
CCP Atlanta = Primarily World of Darkness Now remove Tinfoil hat, and unbunch those panties.
mushroom less, fanbro......
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".....and the expansion of Dust514" ~the article |
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Posted - 2013.07.02 13:46:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:If, as you say, this guy made some mistakes... I'd look to who he is. If he's the type that learns from his mistakes then this could be a really good move.
Seriously guys, some of you need to grow up a little bit. CCP won't become EA overnight unless they start putting EA folks in everything. At the level this guy is coming in at he shouldn't be in the lower level details. I'd bet dollars that this guy and CCP have had some discussions about who pays the salary and what they expect to get out of that.
I think it's pretty apparent that he's been brought in for his extensive knowledge and experience with F2P monetization and the operations and financing (etc...) that goes on with that gaming sector.
The amount of power and influence he'll wield within CCP is yet to be seen, but the truth of the matter is that the culture he brings to the table is 100% EA. That's what CCP has went and gotten itself.
If you're looking for example to gauge this situation by, EA has been vomiting high profile execs, directors and CEOs all over other dev studios and publishers throughout the industry for the past half decade. Go do some research and see how the majority of those situations often turned out. |
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Posted - 2013.07.02 15:16:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:Aww yeah... Madden throwing skills being brought to the Grenade game.
(I don't assume that any of you are old enough to remember CoD before they went MW/Black Ops dumbness and the games were good.)
COD 3 was my favorite console COD game, which was odd considering Treyarch developed it in less than 9 months
When I first saw COD4 I was immediately disappointed, but gave it a shot anyways. Everyone that knew me as a gamer back then knows that I didn't like the direction they went with the franchise, wasn't keen on liking Modern Warfare even before I had tried it, and barely found it entertaining after playing it.
At a glance, I new that I was done with the COD franchise when I saw the first BlackOps. Just wasn't my cup of tea anymore. Had way too many better options for competitive twitch shooter, arcade shooter, and tactical shooter gaming. |
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Posted - 2013.07.03 12:23:00 -
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What are you trying to say here?
For instance:
Did you just try to give that EA spawn credit for Battlefield 2's creation/development/success? Seriously?
The same Battlefield 2 that began development before EA even purchased Dice (read: Dice sold out)?
The same Battlefield 2 that was ACTUALLY inspired by the mod "Desert Combat" and was in-part developed by said mod team's first dev studio, Trauma Studios?
Please tell me that I don't no more than you do about the games on his so-called "Games Credited" list and how little his existence had on the creation and success of a number of them. Please.
Prejudging the guy? BS....
Your problem has nothing to do with the guy being prejudged, because I've done no such thing. Your issue is with my implications (read: not prejudging) of what said EA spawn's presence as CCP will result in.
By the way, nice thread title hijack. Spent all night at work wondering what the freak happened to my thread. 
Every online shooter developer that I've ever encountered.... EVER..... has always had everything figured out enough to know they were right about anything I felt they were doing wrong. Until they either begrudgingly (often half-assedly) admit fault or were promoted to the position of "former dev of a now defunct game development branch/company" (often taking their position to the dev graveyard with them) |
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Posted - 2013.07.03 12:26:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:What a misleading title.
It wasn't my original title. Some forum admin or dev was "nice" enough to change (read: hijack) it for me without prompt or notice.
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Posted - 2013.07.03 12:39:00 -
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CCP Frame wrote:I still remember C&C Renegade and endless hours I spent playing it in multiplayer with my friends... Start at 20:00 finish at 6:00 the next day. Protecting the harvester all day long with my sniper!
Odd. I was under the impression that most classic CnC gamers viewed CnC:Renegade as being the beginning of the end of the Command and Conquer franchise. At least the "good" days of it.
What I remember is hours upon hours of excitement filled matches....... in CnC Tiberium Sun, and in CnC Red Alert 2. Even managed a bit of fun with the first Generals when it was released until the horrible instability killed the fun for me.
Renegade, however, was total garbage..... imho |
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Posted - 2013.07.03 12:56:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:General Technique wrote:What are you trying to say here? For instance: Did you just try to give that EA spawn credit for Battlefield 2's creation/development/success? Seriously? The same Battlefield 2 that began development before EA even purchased Dice (read: Dice sold out)? The same Battlefield 2 that was ACTUALLY inspired by the mod "Desert Combat" and was in-part developed by said mod team's first dev studio, Trauma Studios? Please tell me that I don't no more than you do about the games on his so-called "Games Credited" list and how little his existence had on the creation and success of a number of them. Please. Prejudging the guy? BS.... Your problem has nothing to do with the guy being prejudged, because I've done no such thing. Your issue is with my implications (read: not prejudging) of what said EA spawn's presence as CCP will result in. By the way, nice thread title hijack. Spent all night at work wondering what the freak happened to my thread. Every online shooter developer that I've ever encountered.... EVER..... has always had everything figured out enough to know they were right about anything I felt they were doing wrong. Until they either begrudgingly (often half-assedly) admit fault or were promoted to the position of "former dev of a now defunct game development branch/company" (often taking their position to the dev graveyard with them) I think the "Point" is, that he have experience with well known AAA games. CCP have lots to gain, and nothing to loose. It have nothing to do with EA in particular, as you trying to make it sound ... 
Would you like clarification on exactly what his "experience" is with a number of those AAA games?
Well, I'll put it like this.......
You know how, sometimes, when a high-profile game is released and it's riddled with bugs and server crashes?
Well, you know how sometimes, the devs for those games end up catching a lot of hell over those quality issues and even sometimes end up closed (the dev studio) within a year of the game releasing?
Well, you know how those devs sometimes say that the publishers pressured them, rushed them, underfunded them, and/or screwed them over on the quality assurance front? (publishers often take control of QA away from dev studios)
Well, there's always this one guy that works for the publisher, and he's pretty much the publisher's appointed "overseer" for that development branch or for that specific development project/game.
In other words, he's "the man" that breaths down the necks of the developers.
^That is who Sean Decker was at EA. He's THAT guy.
Up until they promoted him to head the free-to-play division of EA, globally...... apparently, that promotion didn't turn out well for whatever reason (underpayed? underperformed? under the microscope and having to stand on his own laurels? who knows....) |
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Posted - 2013.07.03 13:05:00 -
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Surt gods end wrote:It's amazing how many don't grasp the word "CORPORATION" in a game where they can create corporations. lol
Sony. microsoft, activision, capcom, EA, ext they are all corps. I'm sure some of you boy cut them all eh? happy with the indie crap huh?
I play what I like. from whatever corp. COD World at War was my last COD game, cause I felt for nothing what came after words. same with madden 2010. (being my last madden) I'm still looking forward to lost planet 3. enjoyed dragons dogma. I did like dead space 3 as a action game, cause no way it's a horror. And am I not getting BF4? hahaha.. seriously? (hell yes I'm getting it)
You play what you like.
I've only taken issue with EA in my OP. The rest is inaccurate assumption on your part.
I have no qualms against Sony, $soft, Activision or Capcom(they make like 0 games that I'm interested in, so how could I)
My issues with EA are well-earned and well-deserved.
I was gaming and fanboying EA titles long before the mainstream gaming community knew who they were, and even before most of you young ones were born.
My first madden game came on floppy and was played on my Apple II
I spent most of my first six years as a madden fanboy having to first explain to my friends that Sega Genisis didn't suck and wouldn't give them herpes, before I could even began to convince them to give madden a try.
If you'd have ask me to predict EA's future back then, I'd have never guessed it would turn out like this. not in my wildest nightmares. Not until after they pulled that crap in 1997 when the first Gameday dropped (right upside their heads).......... it's been downhill (integrity/sincerity-wise) since then. |
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Posted - 2013.07.03 13:42:00 -
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.....and then there's this:
....so yeah, for anyone who's missed it, let me lay it out for you.
CCP has put this guy directly in charge of deciding what goes into the next Dust updates. Starting with 1.3
Thoughts? |
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Posted - 2013.07.03 13:54:00 -
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Jaqen Morghalis wrote:People are always complaining that CCP has little/no experience developing FPSs.
Well, now they have someone who does.
Let's at least give him a chance, and wait and see what he does here, for this company.
Can we have someone, who knows what the flop they're talking about, come into this thread and post of list of all the FPSes that he actually physically took part in developing?
I'd actually like to know, for future reference. |
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Posted - 2013.07.04 12:09:00 -
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Ludvig Enraga wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:.... I don't get the EA they make some of the most awsome games on the market and omg they charge u for more content shock and gasp the only issue I have with EA was the interference in how studios opperate. But that guy got the boot apprenty and now every one can develop with minimal interference.
Really steam and Activision are just as bad. But those two have godly pr teams. And the internet has a massive blind spot in regards to steam which is annoying at times I am not an insider, so I may be wrong. But I think EA is a publisher who pushes developer houses that it owns to crank out inferior product, so that EA can market the c rap out of it and oversell it. Worse yet they buy developers with a good established reputation and brand names that embody quality and then w hores them out till they cant walk upright anymore.
In the immortally hilarious words of one of my coworkers, "DAMN! That guy told it like it is. bwahaha!" |
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Posted - 2013.07.05 12:06:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:My friends paint a diffrent pic of Ea that said apprenty the older guys admit it used to be **** but it got a lot better in order to retain the talent
"older guys"? really? |
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